Krieg posted a career of 98-77. As someone who is arguably the greatest to ever take snaps from under center, Brady didnt have especially large hands. he joked to Beckys-Place.com, a Seahawks fan site, in 2005. [26] Two weeks later, at the AFC Championship Game in Buffalo, Montana sustained a concussion and left the game in the third quarter. DeBerg moved on, and Krieg found himself handing off to Christian Okoye and Barry Word in a conservative offense for a team run by an old-school head coach that got hammered in the first round of the playoffs. I really enjoyed that. *DeBerg traded to the Broncos shortly before the 1981 season; Reeves was in his first year as the Broncos head coach. Dave Krieg of the Seattle Seahawks, seen here in between fumbles. Undrafted in 1980, Krieg tried out for the Seahawks and caught on as a third-string quarterback. In the offseason, the Chiefs signed Joe Montana and made him their starting quarterback. 1,579,967: 29. In his second season as a starter, less than a year after he tore his ACL, Joe Burrow threw 34 touchdowns, won three playoff games and took the Bengals to their first Super Bowl in over three decades. The Seahawks lost 15-3 to the Giants (Stouffer fumbled out of the back of the end zone) and 41-14 to the Broncos. As it turns out, hands under nine inches arent For some combination of reasons, Krieg won the starting job from Zorn to start the 1982 season and endured 14 sacks in a pair of losses, breaking his thumb in the second game. That season, Seattle had a Sunday Night and Monday Night game in back to back weeks, both of which Stouffer started. In reply to How dare you besmirch the by Ambientdonkey. We should ask Bears legend Russell Wilson. I loved the guy as a kid and QBs turned it over more in those days butoof. Late in the 1992 season, I think it was against the Steelers, the recording ended early, like at the end of the 3rd quarter. I remember Kelly Stouffer as part of the terrible trio who quarterbacked the '92 Seahawks. Given the opportunity to play in the fourth game of his freshman season (1976), he completed four passesthree of them for touchdownsand continued to play well enough to start for the rest of his college career. Something exciting or dreadful was going to happen, but it was always interesting. Stouffer stepped in and led the Seahawks to a pair of wins, mostly by handing off to Warner and John L. Williams. In Week 16, Krieg was benched and Stouffer got his first start of that season. Krieg said Patera wouldn't allow players to drink water during 90-degree training camp two-a-days, which wasn't that unusual back then. He's pretty unflappable. Although he missed seven games with a separated shoulder, his excellent play helped propel the Seahawks to their first AFC West Division Championship. Krieg would suffer a shoulder injury late in what became an up-and-down season, and the Seahawks finished 8-8. "We don't want him looking over his shoulder to see if every time he makes a mistake we're warming up Dave Krieg," Knox said. And his DVOA record only backs that up. WebDave Krieg profile, statistics and more. Some of our best years, pre-Holmgren. Of the top 5 on the chart (the guys who Maybe they should have just switched sides for the afternoon. He finished the season fourth in DVOA (behind Tommy Kramer, Marino, and Boomer Esiason) and eighth in DYAR. Kemp relieved Krieg in the fourth quarter and nearly led the Seahawks on a scoring drive in the final 71 seconds. David Michael Krieg (/kre/ KRAYG; born October 20, 1958) is an American former professional football player who was a quarterback in the National Football League (NFL). WebDave Krieg recovers the botched snap, rolls out, and throws for a touchdown on 4th and Goal. How he not only went 6th overall, but had the audacity to hold out and force a trade (and it worked! I think if you hang around here enough you'll see there's plenty of us who remember Neil Graff, Bill Munson and the lefty from Cal Poly-Pomona. Honestly, I'd just love to read some more detailed stories about about how DeBerg and Montana were good friends off the field who competed relentlessly at everything during their two plus seasonstogether on the 49ersbefore DeBerg was traded to Denver shortly before the 1981 NFL season started. [7], By the middle of the 1981 season, Krieg overtook Sam Adkins on the depth chart to become the Seahawks' second-string quarterback. One can only wonder what would have happened had the Cowboys kept Zorn and/or DeBerg instead of Glenn Carano (2nd round pick in 1977) once Roger Staubach retired and Danny White (drafted by the Cowboys in the 3rd round in 1974, went to the WFL at the start of his career, joined the Cowboys in 1976) beat out Carano for the starter's job in 1980. Statistically, the 1994 season was the best of Krieg's career: Krieg completed 61.8% of his passes and threw 14 touchdowns versus only 3 interceptions, for a passer rating of 101.7. I remember when 44 year old Deberg started a game for the 1998 Falcons (one of their 2 losses that season). Parts of his story"seventh-string" quarterbacks, canisters of film, Plan B free agency, general managers stepping in as coaches, quarterback controversies that last multiple seasons and don't end with epic tradesbarely make sense anymore. Krieg suffered a thumb injury in the 1991 season opener, leading to even more Kemp and Stouffer. He suffered a hand injury in Week 10 against the Packers, and Krieg led a rally from a 24-0 deficit. In his 19-year NFL career, Krieg played for the Seahawks (19801991), Kansas City Chiefs (19921993), Detroit Lions (1994), Arizona Cardinals (1995), Chicago Bears (1996), and Tennessee Oilers (19971998). I always enjoyed watching Krieg. See Photos. He threw three touchdowns, two of them to Largent, in a blowout victory over the Browns in the season finale. And he's going to be the man 'till something else happens. Then he had a choppy first half of '95, and fans were calling for him to be benched for Don Majkowski (seriously), who did play well in one start filling in for an injured Mitchell. Yep. When I was a kid a I thought he was a damn wizard. The newly-christened "Air Knox" flew better than your average wild turkey. ", That late surge only brought a small measure of job security, however. Viewers of Dave Krieg, also viewed Joe Montana (66) American football player John Elway (62) Which just tells you that there were a lot of excellent QBs at that time. In reply to "The Unholy Trinity" as I've by Joe Pancake. Jets link has been fixed. Krieg also played well in Miami the following week, but the Dolphins defeated the Seahawks and went on to lose Super Bowl XIX. Even when the young starter played poorly,[33] coach Jeff Fisher declined to insert Krieg. [30], In 1996, the Chicago Bears signed Krieg to back up Erik Kramer. But the tales of that rifle arm and tight spirals into the wind we read in the last section didn't survive into the era of MTV and personal computers. 4) Bob Smizik was a long-time sports columnist in Pittsburgh either for the morningPittsburgh Post-Gazette or the afternoonPittsburgh Press. JavaScript is disabled. It was the forerunner toManning-Leaf. And he called plays using a shoulder mounted speaker system for a time as well. Krieg took a seven-step drop on the very first play from scrimmage and launched a bomb to rookie receiver Daryl "Deep Heat" Turner for an 80-yard touchdown. ", https://www.footballoutsiders.com/almanac/historical-archive. Tiny hands! He finished fifth in passing DVOA behind Dan Fouts, Marino, Joe Montana, and Joe Theismann. "We just decided to make a change to hopefully get some spark in there and be able to make some plays we haven't been making," Knox said. However, on the last play of the game, as time expired, Thomas closed in for yet another apparent sack, but Krieg eluded the linebacker and threw a 25-yard touchdown pass to wide receiver Paul Skansi for the win. Explore sample content below to see what you're missing. ), finishing 8-8. Sports betting operators have no influence over nor are any such revenues in any way dependent on or linked to the newsrooms or news coverage. Raiders legend Tom Flores stepped down from the front office to replace him. It's the link to the first Jets game of the season (Krieg played in the second). After hovering around .500 forever for Knox and playing for Schottenheimer and Ryan, Krieg was destined to end up with Fisher. Does anyone else remember the Cortez Kennedy commercial? Seattle Mariners @ Oakland Athletics May 2-4. He went 1-of-8 for 2 yards, three sacks, and one interception in the first half of a Week 8 against the Steelers, who were without Jack Lambert on defense and Terry Bradshaw on offense. In the wild-card round of the playoffs, when the Chiefs hosted the Pittsburgh Steelers, an injured Montana briefly left the game. After Mitchell's poor half season in '94., everyone was ready to jump off the bandwagon. Krieg and the Seahawks had a down year in 1985. He was the hottest thing on the planet in October of 93 as many believed Miami couldnt win a game without Marino. "Dave was in the zone", McNair explained. Bizarrely, Seattle (6-10 in 1981) handed the 10-5-1 Jets their only two losses of the 1981 season after New York's 0-3 start. Krieg hit Largent for a touchdown in the final seconds of that game to force overtime, but he spent much of the afternoon firing incomplete bombs downfield; the Seahawks were without Warner again, and Knox was without much more of a Plan B than "heave it to Steve.". I was in the Army in Germany during the late 80's - early 90s seasons. Seattle General Manager Tom Flores decided to retain Stouffer and McGwire, and to let Krieg become a free agent. "He picks out secondary and tertiary receivers. He appeared in two other games, going 3-of-3 for 57 yards in relief during a 44-14 blowout of Cincinnati and going 1-of-2 for 3 yards in a loss to the Jets. FactSnippet No. Maybe! Krieg would feel his absence, throwing more interceptions (20) than touchdowns (15) in 1990. [21] Nevertheless, Krieg's strong regular season showing earned him another Pro Bowl appearance. Krieg's burden grew heavier in 1990, with the retirement of Largent and the continued decline of the offensive line and the running game. If I'm not mistaken, he was the QB in the Leon Lett snow-fumble between Miami and Dallas. "The veteran quarterback took over for Scott Mitchell, saved the Lions season, and probably saved Wayne Fontes' job," Didinger wrote. I liked him (probably because that's how Philadelphia area sportswriters often wrote). 1988 SEAHAWKS: Had his worst game as a pro replacing injured Dave Krieg in loss to 49ers in Week 4. I'm guessing White probably wins the starting job anyway, but it isn't inconceivable Zorn orDeBerg manages to grab the starting position instead of White (who it should be noted was a very, very good NFL quarterback for about five seasons). Stroud, Mike Tanier's Final Three-Round Mock Draft, Things to Do While Waiting for Aaron Rodgers. Oh, and he has the smallest hands among all current NFL starting quarterbacks. Then a strike erased two months. (Both teams finished 5th in their respective AFC divisions in 1980, so they played each other twice in 1981.) WebDave Krieg As a professional athlete, he has represented various famous NFL teams like- Seattle Seahawks, Kansas City Chiefs, Detriot Lions, Arizona Cardinals, Chicago Bears , But he barely played in Tennessee and retired after the 1998 season. The Seahawks had joined the NFL just four years earlier in 1976. "He had some big plays and rallied us. It was a callback to when Krieg replaced Zorn against the Steelers a decade earlier. Veteran Jeff Kemp, who looked great when throwing to Largent against insurance salesmen in 1987, flopped in a one-game trial as the backup. When injuries sidelined Jim Zorn late in the season, Krieg started the last three games and played well, helping the team record two of its six wins that year. After breaking his thumb in the season opener, Krieg missed six games in 1991. The Seahawks went 2-1 in replacement games, in part because Largent and a few others crossed the picket lines. Krieg replaced the trio of Steve Beuerlein, Jay Schroeder, and Jim McMahon as Ryan sought the ultimate plucky, seasoned handoff machine. Having lived near the Seattle mediasphere during Krieg's reign I really liked this piece. When I think of Dave Kreig, I always think of the 1985 Seahawks, the team that alternated four 2 game winning streaks with four 2 game losing streaks. This was back when teams would occasionally play teams outside their division twice in a season. Garrett Gilbert, Gale's son, made an emergency start for the Cowboys last year. In the spring of 1989, Krieg competed in NBC's prestigious Superstars competition, a series of physical challenges pitting athletes from various sports against one another. That makes a difference," said Meyer, who had suggested years earlier that a big-league arm doesn't make much difference. Oh that guy undrafted from a College that no longer has a football program, had small hands and took over for Zorn and who drove Knox nuts but found a way to win most the time. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Players shook hands with opponents as a sign of union solidarity before preseason games in 1982, and the usual suspects reacted as if they were burning puppies cradling bibles wrapped in flags. They crushed the eventual AFC champion Broncos 41-16 in the final game of the regular season (when Denver still had something to play for). That's not the sort of thing a team does when it is completely satisfied with its starting quarterback. I liked DeBerg, he had really, really mean hand-off fakes often leading to play-action bombs. Please keep me in your thoughts. But the career leader in quarterback fumbles is none other than Hall of Famer Brett Favre, with 166. Yet hes an elite quarterback anyway? -- Krieg is expected to be out for eight weeks with a broken thumb on his throwing hand. I always felt Krieg was underrated and never got his due. Dave Krieg, sometimes known as Mudbone, is a former NFL football player from the United States. By this point, "small hands" had been added to "played for a college that no longer exists" in Krieg's short-form resume, and he's still third (behind Brett Favre and Warren Moon) on the all-time fumble list. 907830E5-9AEB-4FD2-9C5E-5AFCA574DF26.jpeg. -The Seahawks actually beat an Elway-less Broncos in the 1983 playoffs. On a team with a moron GM. Head coach Jack Patera and offensive coordinator Jerry Rhome liked Krieg, and he latched on in training camp in 1980once again as a seventh-string quarterback, at least according to Krieg's recollections. Find your friends on Facebook. [1][9][10][11], Krieg began the strike-shortened 1982 season as the Seahawks' starting quarterback and played respectably until a thumb injury sidelined him for several weeks. Smizik was often curmudgeonly in his writing. Patera's attitude toward unions was predictable. His regular season career winloss record is 98-77. Web8 1/2 hand Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) March 3, 2022. But Patera did release Sam McCullum, a productive veteran receiver who also happened to be the Seahawks' union rep. Legal actions ensued. But after Krieg went 6-of-16 for 26 yards and five sacks in a Week 8 loss to the Broncos, Knox turned the starting job over to Gilbert, who had gone undrafted out of Cal in 1985. I looked it up, in 1993 after 7-2 Miami lost Marino for the season and Scott Mitchell went down, they signed DeBerg, then 39, off-the-street and put him as their starter. .or just me??? Have 5hoguht about book like that or. I was dragged in to help out a friend in one of the very firstFantasy Football leagueshe couldn't decide on a QBI said 'no matter what the situation, Dave Krieg always finds a way to shine through' He DID win the Fantasy Champ. WebInterestingly, his span is a whopping 17.6% wider than Anthony Davis' despite being nine inches shorter. With Seattle he was 70-49, Krieg also had six seasons where he lead his team to the playoffs and posted a playoff record of 3-6. [24] Despite having an outstanding defense in 1992, their overall record of 214 (.125) remains the worst in franchise history. In reply to I liked DeBerg, he had by Noahrk. Log in or sign up for Facebook to connect with friends, family and people you know. The Chiefs signed Joe Montana to really feed their habit in 1993. Patera was the only head coach in team history, and he led them to 9-7 records in 1978 and 1979. It became a Ryan Fitzpatrick/Harvard type deal, and it framed a perception of Krieg as the ultimate underdog. Neither Krieg nor the Chiefs must have noticed that anything much had changed. David Krieg. Ryan Fitzpatrick with Buffalo in2011 kind of fits that mold, but Ryan Fitzpatrick has his own unique layers to his story. and losers (oh no, Lions) of the 2023 NFL Draft, Ranking all 32 current NHL away jerseys, from worst to best, The Brewers' Willy Adames got ejected after a blatantly spiteful sequence from umpire Adam Beck, Will Levis' sad night sitting in the NFL Draft green room in 8 photos and videos, A fired-up Steph Curry told the Kings to 'light the beam' as the Warriors ended Sacramento's season, Will Levis's Pro Day quote on not wanting to be in NFL Draft green room if he wasn't a first-round pick was sadly prescient, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. The Seahawks were considered by many to be the preseason AFC favorites in 1987, but the Seahawks reverted to their more inconsistent form and ended up sneaking into the playoffs and losing in the wild-card round. However, Krieg still saw substantial action in 1993, relieving Montana in six games, and starting five games for the oft-injured Hall of Famer. Steelers, Rams Set Offensive Line Continuity Records, XFL Week 7 Preview: St. Louis, Houston Scrap for Second, Most Overvalued Players in a 2023 Fantasy Football Draft, Rams Limp to the Front of 2022's DVOA Underachievers, XFL Week 6 Review: D.C. -Kelly Stouffer is one of the greatest draft mysteries to me ever. Hand size (Length/Span): 9.5/10 Height: 61 Percent longer than the He kept his turnovers, sacks, and fumbles down, finishing 11th in DVOA and 12th in DYAR, stunning figures for a 38-year-old whose weapons were Curtis Conway (not bad), early-career Bobby Engram (OK), Michael Timpson, fullbacks Tony Carter and Raymont Harris, and tight end Ryan Wetnight (yikes). In the team's eight victories, Krieg's passer rating averaged more than 114an excellent markbut in their eight losses, his rating hovered just above a dismal 40.[16]. If you did a book of things like these from throughout the NFL's history (the hall of semi-interesting / semi-forgotten), I would absolutely buy it. Given the litany of stars who have entered the league since Carr started his professional career in 2014, it can be easy to forget this Raiders mainstay. The Packers narrowly held off the Lions for a 38-30 win. He endured 53 sacks and fumbled 16 times in a typically dreary afterthought of a Ryan offense. WebFor many years Krieg held the NFL record for most career fumbles, a result of both a lengthy career at quarterback and unusually small hands for the position. [11] WebKrieg was the holder of the NFL record for most career fumbles for many years, owing to both a lengthy career at quarterback and extremely small hands for the position. That was an ancient DeBerg who came in late in the season in relief of an injured Marino and did a bang-up job. Truly one of the most miserably bad games of all time. Wide receiver Steve Largent had just emerged as the team's first true star. That said, any mention of Kreig will always bring two plays of his to mind: In reply to As someone who started by dmb. Zorn played adequately to start the season, then slowly fell off a cliff. Hmm, it doesnt appear his hand size matters! (The two papers merged after the 1992 Pittsburgh newspaper strike.) They were considered the hottest team in the AFC and possibly the NFL at the end of the season, but missed the playoffs at 10-6 due to tiebreakers. We're talking about this in-house. Many years later, Lions tackle Lomas Brown admitted that he got "gator arms" on the guy he was blocking because he was wanted Mitchell out of the game. See Photos. Of course his performance in December was the real Mitchell, but that didnt stop the Lions. Seattle also beat the eventual Super Bowl champion Giants earlier in the season. However, even Krieg's good games rarely resulted in Cardinals victories. Might wnat 5o do fiction instead. Krieg threw 18 touchdown passes in the regular season and four more in the two playoff wins before getting intercepted three times by the eventual Super Bowl champions. Dave Krieg. General manager Mike McCormack took over as head coach and reinstated Zorn when play resumed in November. It actually made some sense why Reeves turned to DeBerg when things were tough in 1998, even though DeBerg was only slightly younger than Bob Hope at the time. It closed in 1982. True to form, Krieg enjoyed a late-season hot streak: 14 touchdowns, just three interceptions, and a second-place finish in DVOA behind Steve Young. To their credit, Knox and Meyer turned back to Krieg as soon as he was healthy. He backed up Montana in San Francisco, Elway in Denver, Young in Tampa, and Marino in Miami. "I figured I had gone too far now, so I just kept going. The Seahawks went 12-4 and avenged themselves against the Raiders in the playoffs but got hammered by Marino's Dolphins in the divisional round. Went to the now-defunct Milton College. Does anyone else question Geno's leadership and accountability cred? WebDave Krieg is one of the NFLs greatest underdog stories. And if he's down, he bounces right back. Thanks as always for the great write-up! Recent and Trending topics from Football Outsiders. You must log in or register to reply here. Krieg signed with the Lions in April of 1994. Ranking every NFL team's 2023 draft class from 32 (sorry, 49ers) to 1 (whoa, Colts), 13 Winners (Bill Belichick!) I really enjoyed this series about good but forgotten players that should be remembered. Defends its Crown, 2022 Failed Completions: Justin Herbert Aims for the Record, XFL Week 6 Preview: Houston and D.C. in a Prime-Time Special, Lomas Brown admitted that he got "gator arms", the famous game-winner against the Chiefs, Playoff Previews (previously Game Previews). It's a matter of doing what's right (for the team). You are using an out of date browser. Another high first-rounder (who was at least good in college) McGwire managed 3 INTs and 3 sacks (0 TDs) in his only start of the season. There are plenty of starting quarterback examples, who also had small hand measurements at the Combine, that we can point to and say this wont matter in determining his future. WebDavid Michael Krieg (/kre/ KRAYG; born October 20, 1958) is a former American football quarterback in the National Football League (NFL). However, Krieg and Seahawks offense were overwhelmed by the aggressive defense of the L.A. Kreig Kreig Hrm, you reckon this young whipper-snapper means old Mudbone outta Milton College? I saw one of those Top 10 Busts or some such show where one player was saying that Mirer was done as soon as they figured out he wouldn't or couldn't throw to his right or his left, I can't remember which any more. Of course I remember him. Although Kramer's poor play contributed to the Bears' feeble 13 beginning, Coach Dave Wannstedt allowed him to continue starting until an injury sidelined him for the remainder of the season. Krieg also became part owner of the af2's Green Bay Blizzard in 2007 along with former Green Bay Packer linebacker Brian Noble. As someone who started following the league at near the end of Kreig's prime, I didn't really have a good feel for his career arc.
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